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Episode 37

A CONVERSATION WITH 
KIM CLARK

Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube

LEADING WITH PURPOSE | A CONVERSATION WITH KIM CLARK

What a neat privilege to interview Kim B. Clark. If you don’t know about this man, he has been a major force in changing education around the globe—all the way from the lofty executives at Harvard, to young children in 3rd world countries.

 

As a young adult, Kim served an LDS mission, before taking a year to study BYU. It was there he met incredible professors who sparked him with a passion for teaching higher education. He then went to Harvard, where he forefrunted incredible studies on innovation in the marketplace.  After his education and some years, he then became the dean of Harvard Business School. 

 

After a long and successful career at HBS, he then received a special invitation from Gordon B. Hinckley, then acting President of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, to serve as President of BYU Idaho. Although his peers thought he was out of his mind to switch schools, he accepted the role with enthusiasm.

 

It was during his time at BYUI that Kim played a major role in the development of BYU Pathway Worldwide, an online worldwide education network that now services more than 70,000 people a year, bring education to even the poorest of countries throughout the world.

 

Kim has impacted millions of lives throughout the globe, including my own. Although I attended HBS many years after he left, the legacy and change for good he created helped shaped my own character and career for the better. 

 

My personal takeaway from Kim’s story is that in order to make big impact, you must decide where you wish to end up, and then you must accept the path it takes to get there. 

 

You’ll be tempted to stray or give up, but once you demonstrate that you’re not going anywhere, 

life opens up to you. Kim’s life looks nothing like he thought it would today, but he was fearless in taking those opportunities when they presented themselves. That faith and discipline has allowed him to accomplish in one lifetime what would normally take 10.

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MY BIGGEST TAKEAWAY FROM THIS EPISODE:

Want to get your life straightened out and achieve great things?

 

Kim has one piece of advice: “Quit the band.”

 

Kim told me when he was in high school, a good friend confronted him about his character. This friend told Kim that he seemed to be two different people.

 

One version was the way he acted at school: Well-mannered, kind, respectful, and obedient. The other version was the way he acted when he played for a band he was in with his friends: Sarcastic, dismissive, and unruly.

“I knew he was right,” Kim said, “and I resolved to pick a version of myself and commit to it.”

He then fully committed to his school side, and quit the band cold turkey that day. Although his bandmates were confused, Kim felt good about his decision. His new commitment to his education brought him wonderful opportunities, everywhere from becoming dean of Harvard Business School, to President of BYU Idaho.

 

I love this story. Often, we get distracted by things that aren't outright bad for us, but ultimately don't serve us in the long run. We want to impress a group of friends and find ourselves acting in a way that would embarrass us if others saw. This is weakness, and carries shame and dishonesty at its heart. 

In order to become the best version of yourself possible, you can’t have different versions of your values that you put on in order to fit in with different groups of people.

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